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That the economy is in a bounce back up to some degree but it may be on a slow pace for the next 2 to 3 years and I think that things will be positive I think another thing about ortho. Is a child today might not be able to get the ortho economically but yet in a year or two that the parents are a reemployed or whatever in a different situation hopefully that child ultimately. Will have some braces it at at some point along the way I think looking at your overhead is very important that I think it's a difficult to cut to cut overhead you got a facility cost and then. From a staff perspective this is this day and time is one in which things are tighter if you got some deadwood in the practice and the need to get rid of somebody the environment is such. That a lot of companies are laying off and so forth and so you may have a little better opportunity to to to trim the staff of somewhat in ortho your staff cost is going to run around. The 2122% or so category have used any of your clients been asking your landlord for rent relief yes I think there that you certainly could go to the landlord in and asked for the rent.

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